Pregnant Natalie Portman: ‘I went back to being vegetarian’
April 11, 2011 in Natalie Portman, Pregnant Celebrities by Versus
Pregnant actress Natalie Portman recently shared that she gave up her vegan lifestyle and went back to being a vegetarian – let’s see her reasons:
“I actually went back to being vegetarian when I became pregnant, just because I felt like I wanted that stuff. I was listening to my body to have eggs and dairy and that sort of stuff.”
“I know there are people who do stay vegan, but I think you have to just be careful, watch your iron levels and your B12 levels and supplement those if there are things you might be low in in your diet.”
“If you’re not eating eggs, then you can’t have cookies or cake from regular bakeries, which can become a problem when that’s all you want to eat. I actually wanted eggs at the beginning and then they grossed me out after awhile.”
… says Natalie.
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not the mention that vegan people are a pain in the ass to invite over for dinner
oh thanks, “normal” people can be, too.
hahaha, good call Mini. Totally agree with you
Haha.
Don’t take it personally. I think she’s referring to having to cater to their specific dietary requirements, which are pretty limited. My family are hardcore carnivores and I remember having a vegetarian over for dinner and my mother got so frustrated thinking what to cook that at one point she said she should just drink water! I don’t eat pork, eggs or tomatoes so I cause a lot of trouble whenever I go somewhere to get a sandwich. Any type of dietary requirement is a pain if you’re not used to it. I wouldn’t take that as an offense.
i find it really funny when i tell people i’m vegetarian and they say ‘what do you eat?!’ lol i mean meat is only a tiny portion of a ‘normal’ diet most stuff is vegetarian.
But i used to be vegan and it was the eating out that made it hard for me! I hear it’s harder finding veggie/vegan stuff in america though?
lol totally and to the person who said that normal people can be too, double that.
oh but when they have to cook up a meal they stutter allright!
must vegans can cook for themselves so I doubt many would ‘stutter’.
hahahah:D
Oh yes, because actually cookies and cakes are really healthy for ur child. One of the best things abt being vegan is that if you want something sweet u have to cook it 4 yourself…. So u rarely eat junk food. But if she thinks that eating that stuff will be good for her baby, whatever. I’m vegan since 2008 and never had problems regarding iron, calcium or b-12, and I don’t take supplements. When and if I have problems, I will take them, but first I want clinical evidence, not just “I wanted to eat that”. Everybody likes junk food. That doesn’t mean it’s good for you.
She didn’t say that it’s good for her, she was just making the point that pregnant women sometimes get cravings.
I know what i “crave” from her
haha nice
And “junk food” isn’t entirely bad for you either. I know it’s not an issue for most people, but you need fat and protein and carbs to live. And while you haven’t had any nutritional deficits, you’re probably not pregnant with a body that is begging you to feed it what it wants when it wants it or suffer raging hormones.
Being pregnant and vegan is very, very difficult, you can’t fault her for giving it up for her baby.
Very difficult? I’m almost 16 weeks pregnant with my first and I’ve been a vegan for almost 2 years. While I was worried that I would have strange cravings (cheese!!) I haven’t altered my diet at all (with the exception of adding more protein that is needed during pregnancy). If I want junk food, I eat it and let me just tell you there is plenty of vegan junk food around. We live down the street from a vegan bakery- bad news!! But seriously, don’t assume it’s hard to be a pregnant vegan- I haven’t had a single issue so far. I’m sure we are all different though so good for her for listening to her body. Luckily, my body is very happy eating this way
I actually didn’t mean because of the cravings, I meant because of the nutritional deficits of the vegan diet. It’s fine to be a vegan and all, but it’s not natural and it’s not the way your body wants you to eat and when you’re pregnant that’s two bodies fighting this special diet you’ve chosen to follow.
Again, I am going to disagree but it’s not something I haven’t heard before. You can argue what you want about what diet is “natural” but when it comes down to it, we are all individuals with individual needs. What works for my body, may not work for yours (or your morals).
If your theory was right, my body would be craving meat, eggs and dairy but nope, not once.
And unless you’re God, I am pretty sure YOU don’t know how MY body wants me to eat lol…
I’m not sure where you’re getting your information, or misinformation as it were, but all the nutrients found in animal products can also be found in vegan foods. Veganism is not inherently nutritionally deficient. Any diet can be nutritionally deficient if it’s unbalanced. The problem is, most people don’t do the necessary research to ensure that their diet is balanced, vegan or otherwise.
As for whether or not veganism is “natural” –let’s be real here. How many non-vegan diets are particularly natural? Even the organic cereal I ate this morning came off of factory equipment that also processes peanuts and tree nuts.
For the record, I am not vegan or vegetarian. But I do like to have all the facts before I start passing judgement on other people’s lifestyles.
Just because you enjoy it doesn’t mean it’s natural. You can train yourself to go against your natural urges but that doesn’t make it normal.
But hey, I don’t care how you live your life. My point was that it’s very difficult to maintain a vegan lifestyle and even more so while pregnant.
ehh a vegan or vegetarian diet is just as “natural” as an omnivore diet. I mean would you go kill an animal, then eat its flesh straight off the bone? I don’t think so, the fact humans have to cook their food to find it appetising seems unnatural to me. Any other carnivorous or omnivorous species eats meat raw straight from the source, humans do not, atleast with fruit and vegetables we eat them raw. That said it is harder to get enough energy and nutrients from a vegan/vegetarian diet if you are uninformed. I’m not saying either is right really, just that both have faults.
She didn’t ‘assume’ she said it might be/is hard for some women. Just because you did it doesn’t mean it’s easy for other people. If you live in a rural area and there isn’t a vegan bakery or vegan junkfood available, it could be easy to drop veganism. I was vegan through my first pregnancy, and halfway through my second. It’s a personal thing. Try not to have the ‘holier than thou’ complex so very common to vegans.
Try living outside the US. In my country its very difficult being vegetarian, let alone vegan! Of couse its possible, but you will always have to cook for youself.
Holier than thou? I think you are coming off more judgemental than I am. I have said several times on this post that every body is different. If I had the “holier than thou” attitude I would say that everyone should be vegan.
And my initial response was friendly, if you’ll notice the smiley face. I said “don’t assume” because I thought she saw being a vegan when pregnant as a difficult thing to do. I AM JUST SAYING THAT it isn’t difficult for everyone, and I am an perfect example.
No reason for YOU to pick on me because I am vegan and you didn’t like my response.
I get tired of people accusing vegans of having a ‘holier than thou’ attitude when every time I tell people I’me vegan they feel the need to tell me what a stupid diet it is and rant on and on.
Hm, I don’t think it can be said that cooking food makes an omnivorous diet “unnatural.” It’s a social conditioning; if we have not been eating cooked meat since birth, we probably wouldn’t have an issue eating it raw. In addition, there is an inherent preference for almost all omnivorous animals to prefer cooked meat over raw meat because 1) bacteria and parasites are killed, 2) protein from cooked meat is more absorbable and stimulates our taste receptors more. So, it’s the same reason as why we would prefer cake over an orange…it’s more calorically dense and our taste sense picks up on that. Show me a sugar loving animal that would turn down cake for a fruit. Same with cooked meat. Only solely carnivorous animals prefer their meat in raw form.
The vegan diet is not natural to a species who is scientifically omnivorous. Human beings are omnivorous. This is a fact that is really not up for debate. However, that doesn’t mean that the vegan diet is bad or unsustainable, as people who use the natural argument like to claim. It just means it’s easier to get all of our nutrients from an omnivorous diet because our bodies are synced/structured to utilize all of the nutrients that you would happen to find in an omnivorous diet. If you take the time to educate yourself in nutrition, and have a body that is able to draw nutrients from vegan sources, obviously you can cut meat and animal products from your diet without sacrificing your health.
Thank you Casey, that’s all I wanted to say
best comment yet!!!
“Oh yes, because actually cookies and cakes are really healthy for ur child. ”
She’s not saying she did it for health, she said she did it for her comfort. I didn’t know there was a law that said we were only allowed to eat perfectly during pregnancy. I presume she makes sure to consume all the nutrients and vitamins her unborn child needs, and then has a few cookies on top to satisfy her cravings.
What am I saying? God forbid, how dare she. SUGAR IS BAD AND PROCESSED!!!!!1 SHE’S GOING TO DROP DEAD ANY MINUTE NOW.
And fyi, cravings can be informative. Sometimes when we crave junk food, it is actually because we are running low on sugar and fat, and it is our brain telling us to get some. Often times you will find pregnant woman crave a lot of things and it’s not always junk food…they crave what their body needs and their cravings tend to be stronger because they are supporting two lives, not just one.
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If your body “craves for fat” it’s not gonna crave for food full of chemicals and cholesterol, you know… However vegans are always accused of being “irresponsible” by being vegan during pregnancy because it’s not healthy for your child, and I was pointing out that actually being vegan takes out all the junk food so you are healthier.
Actually, being vegan does not take out chemicals and junk food at all. Many vegans cook at home, but many also fall prey to the ease of buying pre-packaged vegan food at health stores. I guarantee you the fake meat you’re buying is going to be laden with unnatural chemicals and compounds. There are tons of vegan chips, snacks, candies, and cookies. I myself used to buy vegan cookies from Smoothie King cause they were so damn delicious. But like any other cookie, they had processed sugars, carbs, and chemicals. Arguably, processed vegan food is a lot worse than normal “fatty” foods, because animal fats are healthier for your body than plant oils and fats. Just because something is a “fat” does not mean its bad; there are different kinds. Plant fats, like sunflower and veggie oils (the exception being olive oil) do more harm than good compared to normal animal fats that come from ingesting animal products.
Oh here we go. Another vegan with a ‘holier-than-thou’ attitude. Now you know why you’re constantly the butt of jokes. Get over yourself.
So bitter. I’m not vegan but I don’t get why people bash eachother over dietary reasons. I know plenty of veggies and omnivores and honestly most of the vegans I know are polite and get attacked by “holier than thou” meat eaters. we all have choices on what to believe but I find it very distasteful the way vegetarians are attacked for trying to be what they deem a more life affirming way. And outside of the junk food vegans/vegetarians, most are very health concious. More so than omnivores
ugh I use to like her now I think she is an annoying removed by admin*.
i agree. she seems so egotistical and whiny.
Its great she is listening to her body and adopting a diet that includes more natural vitamins, minerals, and proteins. She’s doing whats right for her child and not selfishly sticking to a diet that could be dangerous to her baby, even though that’s what a lot of stringent vegans/vegetarians would do. And before I get slammed by the militant veggies, yes, its also selfish to eat junk food and processed crap all the time, especially if you’re pregnant. I would applaud those moms as well if they adopted a more healthy diet just for their baby. You can’t endanger your baby’s health because of your bad decisions either way.
I agree with your comment! She didn’t say that she was pigging out all the time- but pregnant women do get cravings and I see nothing wrong with giving into them on occasion. Pregnancy cravings can vary from woman to woman and I think that it’s great that she’s in tune with her body.
Completely agree Sam
“Selfishly sticking to a diet that could be dangerous to her baby”…what town do YOU live in? Have you done any research on the vegan diet and how absolutely complete/nutritional it can be? How is being a vegan “endangering your body???”. You sound a little ignorant, no offense.
Do your research before making claims like that- Even the American Dietetic Associations supports vegetarian/vegan diets. Why would that change when a woman becomes pregnant? You have to eat more protein and about 200-300 extra calories, plus folate and possibly more calcium. All of that is possible without using animals for the milk, eggs or flesh.
““Selfishly sticking to a diet that could be dangerous to her baby”
Dr. Truth, while I agree that a vegan diet can be healthy, as in your case above, you yourself said that it’s not for everyone. We all have unique nutritional needs.
I think we can both agree that some people religiously follow the vegan diet based on philosophical beliefs even at the expense of their body’s functioning. Not all, but some. Some can do a vegan diet, but not everyone can. And even then I believe it’s up to people to do with their bodies as they wish, but when you continue to be vegan when it’s not working for you based on only philosophical beliefs while you are pregnant, then yes, that is a bit selfish, much like it would be selfish to continue to be on a diet in order to maintain weight.
I believe Natalie Portman realized that FOR HER, a vegan diet wasn’t working during her pregnancy, and she made a change. To me, that’s a good thing, and much better then struggling to stay on a diet that was either not easy for her to follow, or not in the best interest of her unborn child.
I’m not ignorant. Humans were evolved to eat certain things. Becoming a vegan or a vegetarian is a moral choice, not a natural one. However, babies are completely at the mercy of their mother’s body (and her nutritional choices) and once it is born, the parents’ choices. I think if you want to raise it to possibly have the choice to become vegetarian/vegan one day, then that’s fine. But giving them no choice as an individual human being, and forcing this unnatural and potentially dangerous diet upon them in vitro and as a baby, is very selfish. And while you may know all about the vitamins and supplements a vegan mother needs (I applaud your knowledge), there are many “ignorant” vegans who don’t. There are lots of cases of vegan babies dying from nutrient deficiences, most recently a French vegan baby. They are on trial for child neglect.
There are a billion more cases of non-vegan babies dying from lack of nutrition, please, on top of everything else, do not start trying to make a correlation between veganism and child abuse/neglect.
Yes, because they live in third world countries and have NO food. In affluent places like France and America, it shouldn’t happen.
you think in europe and america children don’t die from abuse and neglect all the time? It happens, sadly, it goes on more than you maybe think. It also has nothing to do with the consumption of the lack of consumption of meat or animal products…
You are warping my words, snoops. I am not trying to make a correlation between veganism and child abuse/neglect. And I’m not talking about children in Europe and America dying from abuse and neglect. I’m talking about malnutrition specifically, which is abuse and neglect whether it is intentional or out of ignorance.
Yes and I’m just saying I dont see why you would bring that up, there was a case of some sick parents letting their child starve to death, they happened to be vegans, it also happens non-vegan parents do the same thing. Why bring it up unless you think it is somehow relevant to the discussion?
I can see the relevance. The cases that Sam brought up were not just children who died and the parents happened to be vegan, but rather the children died due to the strict vegan diet that the parents forced the children to practice.
I think, what Sam was trying to say, is that veganism is a moral philosophy, above all else. And because of that, like with every moral philosophy, people can be so passionate about it and so willing to follow it that it may make them oblivious to poor choices. It’s kind of like people who don’t practice modern medicine due to religious reasons. That’s fine but then they deny their young children vital medical care leading to permanent disfigurement or death. It’s not that these were BAD parents…they believed that they were doing the right thing because of their passion for their faith. But overall, in terms of parenting, those were poor choice.
Same with the vegan parents of the children who died. But then I don’t see why those vegans are off-limits to criticism since we freely criticize parents who don’t allow their children the choice of whether or not they want medical treatment.
And obviously not all vegans are like this, it is only a small percent. But whenever there is a moral philosophy involved, there will always be a risk of things like that happening. I guess you can say maltreatment can happen to all children, but, in a way I feel that it’s more tragic in the cases of moral philosophy, because those parents are actually functional human beings and do love their children, unlike your typical abusers.
Its ironic that you start out with a comment such as… WHAT TOWN DO YOU LIVE IN… but then say no offense? … You could phrase things in a different way cause reading your comments they actually do sound quite offensive. This website’s purpose is to comment on different opinions and embrace all of them. It may not be the case, but you seem to be very defensive about your opinion. You’re a vegan, thats great! Not everybody has to be and not everyone has to think it is the best option. Some may think its a healthier alternative if done right and others will think it an unhealthier alternative. There is no need to get personal about it or sound like you’re attacking other users.
Thank God someone that actually read something!!
Humans are meant to be omnivorous. There is plenty of evidence to support this. Many omnivores AND vegans/vegetarians make poor food choices. If you make the correct food choices, you should be fine. But please, don’t be one of those people who claims that vegetarian diets are superior to omnivorous ones. It make YOU sound ignorant too.
Ooooh I wish I was like her on the pic just plus 5 kilo (I think she’s a bit on the skinny side). And most of the 5 kilo should be placed on my breasts;)
a bit on a skinny side!?? really?? i think she’s waaay on the skinny side!
what did she mean by: ““If you’re not eating eggs, then you can’t have cookies or cake from regular bakeries” ???
she meant that she is craving baked goods from non-vegan bakeries. If she continued being vegan she wouldn’t be able to buy breads and other goodies from regular bakeries. makes sense to me, i can’t walk past a bakery without fighting the overwhelming urge to go inside and buy something
“I actually went back to being vegetarian when I became pregnant, just because I felt like I wanted that stuff.”
That’s funny because I eat meat just because I want it.
Natalie has such strong beliefs about Veganism so my bet is that she will return to it after her baby is born.
Good for her for listening to her body and doing what she felt was right.
As a vegan mom-to-be, I’m so glad I haven’t craved dairy or eggs. In fact, it’s simple to be vegan and pregnant. Any junk food you could possibly want is available. And then some…
dude we get it
and then some
So because junk food is available to vegans it’s ‘easy’ to be a pregnant vegan? Are you saying that junk food is the only kind of food essential to pregnancy? I wonder if you’ll realize how unfair you’ve been to your child when they can’t sustain themselves on your nutrient depleted breast milk. I for one intend to eat mostly fruits, veggies, nuts, meat, full fat dairy, and eggs while I’m pregnant. My focus is on having a sturdy, robust and healthy baby. Your focus is on your identity and public image as a vegan.
I recently read a newspaper article about a 5 month old that died due to being undernourished. She was fed only breast milk by her mother and because the mother was a strict vegan, the breast milk wasn’t beneficial for the baby. So sad. Never was a fan of veganism I must say.
lots of kids with omnivore moms die of malnourished too – its just not really newsworthy (sad, but true). There are smart, careful, healthy vegans, and there are lazy, stupid, unhealthy vegans. Its extremely important to be mindful of nutrition when you have children, regardless of your dietary choices, and the more strict your diet the more careful you need to be. I’m so sorry that poor baby had a stupid mom, but that doesn’t make veganism as a whole unhealthy.
Well said! I knew someone would bring up that story. Children die of malnutrition DAILY. I’m sure the majority of the parents are omnivores.
I’m vegetarian and have been vegan off and on. The thing is, if you’re stupid about your diet– whether you think that eggs and bacon are the way to eat, or just juice– something bad will happen.
So yeah, there are stories out there about vegan parents who have done stupid things, but the same goes for omnivorous parents! If you learn about food and learn how to take care of yourself, you will be healthy. You can do that as a vegan, or as an omnivore. It’s just about knowledge.
The baby died as a direct result of the mothers breast milk lacking essential nutrients. The mother was unaware of how nutrient depleted she was, like many vegans. Find me one case of that happening to a baby who was exclusively fed breast milk from an omnivorous mother. If you’re going to make these claims you need proof.
The fact that this child’s mother was a vegan is completely irrelevant, children die of abuse and neglect every day to parents who eat animal products. There is no correlation between consumption of animal products and child abuse…
Also I don’t really get the “fan” comment, why would anyone be a “fan” or “not a fan” of any one else’s diet anyway? I swear some people are so uncomfortable with vegans and vegetarians, I don’t know why.
Oh, and I’m just glad she went back to eating, period. I saw Black Swan this weekend and her body was nothing but bone!
I was thinking the same thing Vegan or not you can’t ignore the fact that her ribs are protruding in the photo and I find that disturbing and ironic as the only meat Natalie needs is that on her bones. Also can I ask you something in all seriousness? What if your child wants to eat meat or dairy like when they go to school or hang out with friends or whatever. I know its a long way off I’m just curious.
Most people are severely in denial about the disgusting places that their food comes from. If they could see the live cow killed, skinned, butchered and ground into hamburger live and up close, they sure wouldn’t want to traipse over to McDonald’s.
Vegetarian and vegan eating comes naturally to children, because contrary to what the ignorant liars around here have been arguing, the human body is designed to consume exclusively PLANTS, not animal products. Children easily understand that we don’t eat hamburgers because hamburgers come from cows who were tortured and killed in a feedlot in the middle of the country, and probably still contain life-threatening bacteria (Jack in the Box, anyone?).
Wow, so much ignorant propaganda in one paragraph, I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
You are the one who is ignorant, not wanting to know the reality. Everything Alexa said about factory farming and McDonalds is true.
And actually our bowels work at best if we consume plants. If our bowels would me designed to eat meat raw, our bowels would be much shorter and we could eat animals from hat to toe, like a cats eat a mouse. THAT has been scientificly proven.
I am an omnivore, but I don’t look down on people for what they eat. Many people seem to believe that if you’re a vegetarian or a vegan you can’t get enough iron or protein. There are different types of iron, one from animal products and one from plants. A vegan woman is recommended to have 33 mg of iron a day. That may seem like a lot, but quinoa, spinach, and beans all provide large amounts of iron. Additionally, protein can be found in beans and also tofu. However, the idea that all vegan diets are inherently healthy is also flawed because there are plenty of ways to eat vegan junk food. Basically what I’m saying is, you need to make your own decision about what to eat.
Good comment, Amanda. I am vegetarian and even though I believe in the diet for ethical reasons, I respect other people’s choices. We can all be preachy about our diets and our beliefs in life, but in the end we are all individuals and we make our own choices.
Vegetarianism and veganism can both be unhealthy diets, as can an omnivorous diet – it’s all about being nutritionally aware and eating as varied a diet as your choice allows. It’s stupid when people think that because you don’t eat meat or animal products you are going to be weak and anaemic – I’ve had that thrown at me a few times – but it’s just ignorance.
It’s also not right when people try to make out that following any one of the diets is ‘unnatural’ – different people eat different ways all over the world and have done for centuries. What is ‘natural’ is eating a diet that is varied, as organic as possible (chemical pesticides, highly processed food and GM products are not natural in anyone’s book, I believe) and fits with your conscience and beliefs (to me factory farming of animals is abhorrent – but I accept that to others it’s not) – and no one else can tell you what that is exactly, it’s an individual thing!
Exactly! I hate when people throw the whole “it’s not natural, you’re damaging your body” argument around, its incorrect and ignorant and not only that, I want to know why other people feel the need to blast the veggie and vegan diet so much? I’ve never had to defend myself against anyone close to me (family or boyfriend) and yet other people, people who really have no concern with my health anyway, have felt the need on so many occasions to lecture me on how I’m sending myself to an early grave cause I dont eat steak!
In my comments I never blasted the vegan/veggie diet. I myself was vegetarian for 3 years. I stopped because it just wasn’t for me. I don’t look down on vegans – as I said in a post above, I think its horrible for both vegan and omnivorous, junk food eating mothers to eat selfishly and not consider the health of their baby. And as justme said, there’s ignorant vegans AND omnivores as well as educated vegans and omnivores.
The fact is that I can’t take vegans and vegetarians seriously as a whole because they blow up at the smallest inkling that anyone is “disapproving” of their diet and way of life. I said something about moms “selfishly sticking to their diet” WHETHER they are vegan or not, and Dr Truth called me ignorant and went on the defensive. There was no need for that. I find that vegans can’t have calm, level-headed, educated discussions, and instead they get defensive and throw insults about ignorance and how its the omnivores who are stupid, lazy, and unhealthy for eating meat. You say you’re trying to defend yourself, but the fact is, no one is attacking you here. There’s nothing wrong with someone questioning a diet/lifestyle that could be dangerous, no matter what it is.
I agree with Erica that people should respect other peoples choices, and that means not only omnivores respecting vegans but vegans respecting omnivores. I find insults of ignorance come form the vegan side more often that not.
Firstly, I was not talking to you I hadn’t even read your post at the time I responded to erica’s, sometimes I read every response on a post sometimes I just skim over, please don’t assume every vegan post here will be directed at you, as that won’t be the case.
Secondly, I said I had to defend myself to people in MY life, I was not talking about you, I was talking about things I have experienced in my life not a post I read online just this afternoon.
And lastly, you lump all veggies/vegans together and apparantly “we” are not to be taken seriously and “we” are incapable of calm/level headed discussion and and “we” like the throw around insults.
Sorry, I wasn’t aware there was a war, I also wasn’t aware that I am part of some big group and that “we” all act exactly the same and “we” should be judged as behaving exactly the same, I also don’t see where any of the vegans/veggies here have said anything insulting other than defending themselves by saying that basicly we can be healthy and those that think we are walking a tight-rope over a pool of man eating sharks because our lives hang so in the balance due to not eating meat, and those that think that vegans are selfish or murderous parents, are indeed, ignorant.
*sigh* Once again you’re misconstruing my words to go on the defensive and call me ignorant. I never said vegans specifically were selfish and murderous. I said ANYONE who endangers the health of their baby for their own selfish dietary choices is bad.
“The fact is that I can’t take vegans and vegetarians seriously as a whole because they blow up at the smallest inkling that anyone is “disapproving” of their diet and way of life.” That is a generalization and quite untrue, vegans and vegetarians receive constant critcism from meat eaters and it gets very tiring. I find that many (not all) meat eaters are eager to argue with vegans and vegetarians and then refuse to listen to our reasons.
I would listen to reasons if they were presented in the spirit of debate and in a level-headed way. But to prove my point exactly, the first person to respond to my first post was Dr. Truth, who said
“what town do YOU live in? Have you done any research on the vegan diet and how absolutely complete/nutritional it can be? How is being a vegan “endangering your body???”. You sound a little ignorant, no offense.”
I know a lot about the vegan and the vegetarian diets and why people do them. As I said, I was myself vegetarian for awhile. In that time I too had to deal with people asking me “Why?” with a wrinkle in their nose and with people waving meat and my face going “You know you wanna!” I know both sides can be at fault. I don’t think either meat eaters or vegans should look for a fight, as many do. I’m just saying, that in my experience, as someone who does not insult vegans outright, I have had many vegans accost me for little to no reason about being a filthy, ignorant meat eater.
I find your last comment very hard to believe Sam, I have never once encountered a vegan refering to a meat eater as “filthy”, vegans are in the minority only a small amount of people are vegan and obviously vegans have friends/family/wifes/husbands that do eat meat because it is the most “normal” (common) thing. Vegans dont hate people who eat meat nor do they find them “filthy”. It really sounds like you are trying to paint vegans as aggressive or bad people and I don’t know why.
Also Sam I see many comments from vegans and veggies here that are calm, level headed, and tolerant, yet you imply that none of have have commented in such a fashion – “I would listen to reasons if they were presented in the spirit of debate and in a level-headed way”
You can’t stop misconstruing me snoops. I’m just going to stop replying to you after this cause you don’t seem to get it.
The experiences me and my friends have had with vegans are probably very different from yours. And rightfully so, we probably live in completely different parts of the world. I’ve also lived in three different countries, so I’ve encountered a larger number of people of all types. Maybe its cause I like the spirit of discussion and when I ask people why they are vegan, they immeadiately go on the defensive even though I was just wondering. Who knows.
I am also not trying hard to paiont vegans in a bad light. Once again, I’m just recounting my experiences, as you are free to recount yours. I haven’t responded to the polite level-headed vegans on this forum because I agree with them and have nothing further to say. I am debating with you because you have something to say about my opinions and i have something to say about yours. I’m not by any means that no vegan has commented nicely on this particular forum. I simply haven’t said anything about it. So once more, please stop trying your hardest to twist my words.
“I agree with Erica that people should respect other peoples choices, and that means not only omnivores respecting vegans but vegans respecting omnivores. I find insults of ignorance come form the vegan side more often that not.”
I have to agree with Sam on this point. I have vegetarian friends and most of them are very “preachy” about their diet, always trying to convince me that I should stop eating meat. And I do the opposite, everytime I have them at my place for a dinner or party I make sure there are lots of vegetarian food options for them and never try to convince anyone that my diet is better. The same with the other friends that eat meat.
I don’t Know if it’s just me, but I do find that lots of vegetarians and vegan I Know act this way (not all of them, of course). On my last birthday, for example, I had a barbecue party and eventhough I made clear that there would be lots of vegetarian and vegan food options available one person told me she would not come because found meat disgusting and seeing people eat it would make her sick.
She is a good looking women, but her ass is terrible
Her ass is terrible?
She looks sooo thin in that above photo!
As a vegan who currently plans to stay vegan while pregnant (whenever/if ever that happens), I have to admit that my first thought was disappointment.
But why? Who cares what Natalie Portman eats?? Plus, she’s still staying vegetarian, and I can tell that she’s passionate about veganism and will probably return to it as soon as she feels ready.
Plus, not all vegans believe that this is the best way for everyone to eat. I personally believe that it’s best for ME, but that some people’s ideal diets include meat and dairy.
one question: is it all about diets or is there any political background if you’re vegan? for me its only political. the diet is a nice sideaction.
I’m vegan i opposition to the cruelty and environmental damage but I also feel better eating vegan. I recovered from an eating disorder by going vegan
It helped me too. I wouldn’t call it disorder but I ate a lot and not because I was hungry but because I was bored/depressed etc. Sweet things such as cookies and stuff make you want more and more. This doesn’t happen with fruit and veggies, that now represent the majority of my diet! And it’s very disappointing when celebrities say these things because they can really influence people…
[...] by VersusNatalie Portman, who recently said that she gave up her vegan lifestyle because she craved non-vegan products (like cookies and cakes) brings another diet-related quote today:“It’s important when you have [...]
Didn’t she go to an ivy league school? Why in the world does she think b12 has anything to do with veganism? B12 is created by bacteria in the digestive tract and is stored in organs for decades. If you are becoming deficient, you have a very seripis problem that is not related to diet. As for iron, vegans are LESS likely to become deficient. The healthiest people in the world are the vegans of vilcabamba, ecuador. 1 in 60 live to be 100. 1 in 1.8 million americans live to be 100. They don’t get heart disease or cancer. Eggs? 1 egg has the limit of cholesterol you should have in 1 day. Not healthy at all. She should have stayed vegan.
going an Ivy league school doesn’t make you an expert on everything in the world. she studied psychology, not nutrition! And anyway, the fact that she went to Harvard doesn’t necessarily mean she’s smarter than any other college grad…places like Harvard (and many other institutions) accept people on the basis of things other than academic and intellectual merit (for example, fame and monetary contributions) – this is especially true for private universities.
Just because she goes to an Ivy league doesn’t mean she automatically inherits the knowledge of the whole universe. Unless she studied biology or medicine or nutrition, she wouldn’t know about that.
Also, the bacteria that produce B12 are in a different part of the gut from where B12 is absorbed. Some herbivores have to supplement with external sources of B12 by reingesting their feces. Know any vegans that do that? For omnivores, the options are better. B12 is especially found in fish, poultry, eggs, and dairy. Vegetarians get enough B12 from the eggs and dairy but vegans get severe deficiency unless the supplement with vitamins.
I assume that a person who is intelligent enough to graduate from an ivy league school would be knowledgable enough to not parrot back what she must have heard from some misonformed source. It seems she has gotten her information from reading what she sees on the first couple pages after a google search. If you read medical literature, you’ll understand the causes of b12 deficiency and realize it is related to an autoimmune disorder and not because you are failing to consume flesh, eggs and a cow’s breastmilk. Anything that is found to “contain” b12 is actually just tainted by feces. Plants can provide b12-if they are also contaminated with feces. Eating animal products causes cellular inflammation. Ever heard of anything healthy that causes cellular inflammation? Neither have I.
I agree with her choice. I mean who wants to miss out on indulging the craving bit of being preggers?
I just wish she would go all the way and eat meat! A developing fetus should really get all the nutrients from meat, veggies diary and wheats! I was so so happy she’s gone vegetarian, but I just feel like it’s not enough =(
In the modern Western world, there is literally NO reason why anybody has to eat meat. People who do eat meat do so out of hedonisic pleasure and convenience; it has nothing to do with dead animals being “healthier” than plants.
hey rich bitc………you can afford as many nutritional yeast as you want, I hate excuses to drop veganism and go hurt animals again, not your fan, i’m very disappointed
that’s what happens when you are a hudge fan and follow someone’s career for over 15 years, never do that again hahaha, hate her, hate her, hypocrate
wow people are little bit crazy here lol